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CA Energy Schemes: ‘We are getting fleeced’

Cal Watchdog -- The California Air Resources Board has created a stealthy new corporation in Delaware. The Western Climate Initiative Inc., which will manage cap-and-trade programs, even has its own form of currency.
“CARB is creating a whole new currency with these pollution certificates,” explained Assemblywoman Diane Harkey, R-Dana Point. “Initially the state was to unite with other Western states to reduce the purported menace to the future of our planet,” Harkey said.

Harkey has been trying to get her legislative colleagues to understand that the “fix,” setting a goal to reduce greenhouse gas emissions to 1990 levels, with increasing population on the horizon, “is guaranteed to cost employers and everyday people more for the electricity and products they need. California’s only remaining partner is


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Submitted Apr 07, 2012 By: bar1035
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honda0105
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Message Posted: Apr 12, 2012 5:07:35 AM

hmmm add on the side offer Russian women one screen, explanation of gas prices the next screen. Wonder if the google ads don't know what "fleeced" means...
honda0105
Champion Author Tallahassee

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Message Posted: Apr 11, 2012 5:11:42 AM

funny that this is California's doing, not the DC administration, yet, so many folks here complain (as expected) about the administration.

CA has voted itself into this.
tomok
Champion Author Portland

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Message Posted: Apr 8, 2012 5:26:26 AM

'We are getting fleeced' – fleecing California and the rest of the nation too. Barry's 'spending gone wild' policy is affecting everyone in the US. Higher taxes, a continuing struggling economy, too many people out of work, wasted taxpayer money spent on already failing green energy companies, there are too many items related to a bad economy.
Whatever the size or shape of the vehicle, Produce and ‘Drive’ vehicles with high MPG, are very reliable, have a ‘reasonable’ cost and a good ‘value’ for the money. Consider using other forms of less expensive transportation to lower your cost, if possible.
The price of fuel at the pump is too high!
12/22/2012!
TerryLee
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Message Posted: Apr 8, 2012 12:09:36 AM

yes by Obama
geminijax
Champion Author Jacksonville

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Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 11:42:41 PM

The real "fix" is the CA voters realizing that perhaps they ought to elect someone apart from the Pelosis, Boxers, etc.
NemoIL
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Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 11:42:04 PM

California is a failed socialist state.
chuckwthompson
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Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 11:40:38 PM

Hate it for those who live in CA!
Ebaz
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Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 11:38:57 PM

Can it get worse in Cali?
HA4CNN
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Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 11:37:52 PM

Scam.
unicornpmb
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Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 11:36:04 PM

Sorry.
danreino
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Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 11:35:48 PM

I tink I've heard of dis California place.....dey hat fleece for yo $@@...aaand utter free guddiezzz.
kgbellman
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Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 11:32:43 PM

Interesting the lengths they go to
scrossi
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Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 11:32:13 PM

Right tedjm1.
fuelsaverMN
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Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 11:31:10 PM

California is such a stupid state because of all their stupid politicians except(ARNOLD SCHWARTZENNEGER).
LilRedWagonIN
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Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 11:30:43 PM

Too bad for CA's political and economic future that there are too many politicians on the opposite end of the spectrum that are flushing CA out to sea, polluting the Pacific.
52MPG
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Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 11:30:30 PM

Another government program destine to waist money and fail.
GasholeMI
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Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 11:26:03 PM

CA is heading for bankruptcy.
jtfftj
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Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 11:25:52 PM

That's what you get when the population thinks that Jerry Brown has the answers to be governor.
Matt G
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Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 11:25:08 PM

Ok
DandyDapple
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Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 11:25:05 PM

CARB is a JOKE! ... OMG 2012!!!
Geo4564
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Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 11:22:55 PM

Great story!
tedjm1
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Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 11:21:56 PM

'Green' is costly. But if we do not head that way, we could poison our planet.
NotmeuQc
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Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 11:21:38 PM

I'm just glad I don't live in CA, but its a nice place to visit.
MINIWINI598
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Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 11:20:54 PM

ok
Lou08
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Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 11:19:45 PM

"CARB" kill this agency in California. lala-lala land. A Blue State (D) Loaded with (PC)that want "Cap and Trade"!!!

[Edited by: Lou08 at 4/8/2012 12:23:53 AM EST]
jkpsr
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Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 11:19:13 PM

The EU has been doing this for some time now. We should follow.
Badmoon
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Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 11:19:12 PM

Green is expensive.
nomad228
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Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 11:18:58 PM

california is learning now that the nation no longer follows what california is doing. because california's values are not the nations values along with many many other things they have done in the past.:)
thuathienhue
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Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 11:18:58 PM

OH, remember to vote before it is to late.
lowpet
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Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 11:18:34 PM

CA emissions suck
MRED3
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Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 11:17:33 PM

Really !
96sc1
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Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 11:17:09 PM

It's like printing money, and it should be outlawed.
Barfood
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Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 11:16:52 PM

Bummer to drive anything in Calif.
VetteFan
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Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 11:15:00 PM

The nation will follow suit, just like always.
Beboper
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Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 11:14:38 PM

glade I don't live there
PrettyLittleLady
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Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 11:14:19 PM

You don't have WA & OR have such restrictions on all their vehicles.
judgemobile
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Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 11:14:11 PM

what would you expect with "MOONBEAM" as governor ??
Bagtag
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Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 11:13:15 PM

Wow...Cali really is outta control!
Rooster922
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Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 11:13:11 PM

We run out of choice here.
Number43
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Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 11:12:06 PM

We are always getting robbed. So what else is new?
dancygreen
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Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 11:11:44 PM

really?
METEOR49
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Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 11:11:34 PM

tree huggers a menace to society !!!!!!!
Rooster922
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Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 11:10:06 PM

I'll stay in the East Coast
rawdog1313
Champion Author Lexington

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Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 11:10:04 PM

Really........
ron98146
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Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 11:09:34 PM

and our wallets continue to bleed.
KnoxGasPriceSpy
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Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 11:08:39 PM

not much hope for California...
timbyus1
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Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 11:08:04 PM

read
jem069
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Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 11:07:55 PM

Ok
yakstar
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Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 11:07:39 PM

life is a scam...
Blue_Cruzer
Champion Author Lexington

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Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 11:07:05 PM

Sound like ripoff.
TheSicilian
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Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 11:06:36 PM

Ca is out of touch
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